Discord Mafia
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Well that's certainly one way to start drama
Well that's certainly one way to start drama 
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I'd be shocked if I wasn't I'd be shocked if I wasn't 
???? Okay we're just going to ignore this conversation
i town read you now 
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️should ALWAYS lynch on day 1 
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Now, while this will usually end up with a vanilla
townie 
down, 
this is incredibly useful.
First off, the prospect of a lynch fuels discussion 
to a great degree. When there’s an actual vote 
️ happening, it’s a motivator to talk 
and for discussion to be more productive 
, while people usually don’t care much 
about no lynch days.
Also, the flip on the player 
lynched 
is incredibly useful down the line 
♀️ . We can deduce scum based on their behaviour 
relative to the flip and using vote ️ reading, which is impossible ❌ without lynching someone.
Something else to be considered is that town 
️ is playing against the clock 
. If scum aren’t dead by a certain point, they lose . Therefore, they must take the most advantage of their time ⏲️, which would involve lynching for the reasons listed 
above. To note is that although scum will usually not be lynched D1, it can happen, and if it does, town ️ basically wins 
the game right there. Lynching leads to the best outcomes 
.️should ALWAYS lynch on day 1 .
Now, while this will usually end up with a vanillatownie down, this is incredibly useful.
First off, the prospect of a lynch fuels discussion to a great degree. When there’s an actual vote ️ happening, it’s a motivator to talk and for discussion to be more productive , while people usually don’t care much about no lynch days.
Also, the flip on the player lynched is incredibly useful down the line ♀️ . We can deduce scum based on their behaviour relative to the flip and using vote ️ reading, which is impossible ❌ without lynching someone.
Something else to be considered is that town ️ is playing against the clock . If scum aren’t dead by a certain point, they lose . Therefore, they must take the most advantage of their time ⏲️, which would involve lynching for the reasons listed above. To note is that although scum will usually not be lynched D1, it can happen, and if it does, town ️ basically wins the game right there. Lynching leads to the best outcomes . You're the one in the hot seat, who do you think is sus
Weird how
That doesn't give us any information though? That doesn't give us any information though? I kind of see that logic, but I also don't.
There isn't even that much to backread (aside from me and mia arguing a bit-) Yeah I misspoke 
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Who voted for the player and who didn’t – This won't reveal much, as Mafia will likely follow the majority to avoid suspicion. Inactive players, if they vote, will also likely go with the majority.
1. You’re assuming that we’ll find a Mafia member on Day 1 and that the other Mafia members will definitely bus their teammate. But realistically, we’re way more likely to accidentally lynch a townie. If that happens, we can still analyze who voted for them with actual reasoning and who just followed the majority without thinking. That gives us useful information no matter what.
Their interactions with other players – Discussions are already happening. If you find someone’s behavior suspicious based on their interactions, I’d love to hear it.
2. Right now, there isn’t much real discussion happening. People are just throwing out random votes with random reasons, and a good chunk of the conversation isn’t even related to the game. If we vote for an inactive player, they won’t be here to defend themselves, which is great for the Mafia. With no pushback, everyone will just go along with the majority, and Mafia members can easily hide without needing to explain themselves. And if the inactive player we lynch does happen to be Mafia, like you said, the other Mafia members will still just go with the flow to avoid suspicion, which gives us no extra information.
Who voted for the player and who didn’t – This won't reveal much, as Mafia will likely follow the majority to avoid suspicion. Inactive players, if they vote, will also likely go with the majority.
1. You’re assuming that we’ll find a Mafia member on Day 1 and that the other Mafia members will definitely bus their teammate. But realistically, we’re way more likely to accidentally lynch a townie. If that happens, we can still analyze who voted for them with actual reasoning and who just followed the majority without thinking. That gives us useful information no matter what.
Their interactions with other players – Discussions are already happening. If you find someone’s behavior suspicious based on their interactions, I’d love to hear it.
2. Right now, there isn’t much real discussion happening. People are just throwing out random votes with random reasons, and a good chunk of the conversation isn’t even related to the game. If we vote for an inactive player, they won’t be here to defend themselves, which is great for the Mafia. With no pushback, everyone will just go along with the majority, and Mafia members can easily hide without needing to explain themselves. And if the inactive player we lynch does happen to be Mafia, like you said, the other Mafia members will still just go with the flow to avoid suspicion, which gives us no extra information. 
who's scum
also thank you, being friendly is a good thing. i agreed with your point but after james made his second wall post with much better counter arguments (srry lol) i agreed with him. also i clear you and james because of the wallpost last night had me in awe, even if james destroyed you in his second wall posts, i can tell your first two posts seems very genuine. also dont people act more mean when as mafia? 
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You know I completely forgot about that at the moment it happened. It was inactive Mafia who self preservationed It was inactive Mafia who self preservationed 
I wasn't bating omg When did people hard sus coal?
i think i’m cooking up a 5 star meal here 
I didn’t have good reasoning behind it but just gut feeling. I have been sussing bys for a while now I didn’t have good reasoning behind it but just gut feeling. I have been sussing bys for a while now 
I'll just say this, just because I reread something, doesn't mean I remember it the next day always. I do apologize I'll just say this, just because I reread something, doesn't mean I remember it the next day always. I do apologize 
mia are you jailkeeper mia are you jailkeeper mia are you jailkeeper i’m just tryna get a reaction out of her. she isn’t in my mafia reads but she is NULL for now
Sabrina seemed sus to me on Night 1, but now I feel like she’s kind of townie. On Day 1, I suspected her for the same reason I sus Eaves. Sabrina pushes players and tries to get people to talk, which is a good thing, as it's the only way we can gather information; however, Sabrina could be paired with Eaves, whom I think is mafia, so for now, she’s neutral.
I don’t need to mention how useless Toast has been to the town. He sends about five messages per day, and none of them are helpful. He could be an inactive and uninterested townie, but I don’t think anyone could be this uninterested even as a townie. To me, it seems like he has nothing to offer the town, nor does he make any effort to help.
These are just my reads, and they might not be 100% accurate, so don't blame me if any of the people I suspected flipped town or if any of the people I cleared flipped mafia. I could pull off any play style 
Coal seems to be playing the same way she did as a townie on the other server; however, I’m not clearing her because she switched to Neeva without explaining why. Sure, she said she was just following everyone, but isn’t that exactly what a mafia player would do? Acting like you're just going along with others seems suspicious to me.
I sus Eaves the most. She tends to accuse or clear people without really explaining why. I can’t find where she explained why she suspected Box before voting for him on Day 1 (correct me if I missed it). She just says, "X, Y, and Z are safe cuz vibes" and then disappears. She's active and has time to talk about anything, but when someone asks for her reads, she vanishes
As I mentioned earlier, this kind of reasoning doesn’t always work, but I think Mia is playing the same way she does when she’s a townie. She tries to be assertive as town, but lets others lead her when she’s mafia. Note: I noticed this and told her before the game started, so she might have changed her playstyle just to deceive me.
Apart from actively pushing Box, I can't find a reason to suspect him. His reasoning makes sense to me, and even though I don’t completely agree with him, his reads don’t seem forced. 
I have no idea why I didn’t look into votes more
i was never planning on voting you i question anyone i sus so thats why i keep reading it wrong mb i question anyone i sus so thats why i keep reading it wrong mb 
i'm quite literally sus'ing myself with that
Day 1 Votecount 6
greenparrot: 2 - mydearsabrina, bystanders
box⏹: 3 - greenparrot, eavess, Bionic
honeydew5828: 1 - honeydew5828
senoritakusina: 5 - miaa_006, 53R0 (Zero), char._.coal, box⏹, james_.77
Abstaining: 2 - senoritakusina , toast2.014 
Day 1 Votecount 6
greenparrot: 2 - mydearsabrina, bystanders
box⏹: 3 - greenparrot, eavess, Bionic
honeydew5828: 1 - honeydew5828
senoritakusina: 5 - miaa_006, 53R0 (Zero), char._.coal, box⏹, james_.77
Abstaining: 2 - senoritakusina , toast2.014 
But yes, I know Sabrina is just hounding me for any reason to justify their sus
Did you not agree with me looking at Day 1 before pinging everyone I think the Mafia comp is someone active / Toast / and parrot actually.
Mia has had way to much in the way of framing to be scum
James could be scum who is pocketing Box potentially? Or with Yumi, but I see James pocketing Box more.
Sabrina is really only scum in worlds where Mia is also scum. Which I highly doubt I think the Mafia comp is someone active / Toast / and parrot actually.
Mia has had way to much in the way of framing to be scum
James could be scum who is pocketing Box potentially? Or with Yumi, but I see James pocketing Box more.
Sabrina is really only scum in worlds where Mia is also scum. Which I highly doubt I think the Mafia comp is someone active / Toast / and parrot actually.
Mia has had way to much in the way of framing to be scum
James could be scum who is pocketing Box potentially? Or with Yumi, but I see James pocketing Box more.
Sabrina is really only scum in worlds where Mia is also scum. Which I highly doubt 
no more school 
insanity pro max+
This type of inductive reasoning isn’t always reliable, as players can change their playstyle, but it's still worth considering. Yumi’s current approach is entirely different from when we played as mafia together. In this game, she comes across as more assertive yet less talkative. Previously, she had to engage with players and pretend to be clueless to avoid being lynched; however, this time, she seems indifferent to whether she gets lynched or not, which is typically a town behavior.
Aside from him pushing Box, I don’t have anything else on him for now. If we lynch Box and he turns out to be Mafia, I’ll clear Parrot since it wouldn’t make sense to bus a teammate on Day 1 without a reason. However, if Box flips Town, Parrot will be on my sus list because I can’t find a valid justification for his vote on Box, aside from voting for info.
This might get me killed, but I believe he's TL. The number of people pushing him D1 without a reason should be enough to semi-clear him. The only suspicious thing about him is that he was inactive all day and suddenly came online to save himself. Considering that he was about to be voted out by Eaves, Parrot, Coal, and Chomps, it's clear that he was pushed for no reason. It doesn’t make sense to bus a teammate on Day 1, and I doubt anyone would be dumb enough to do that. I find Eaves suspicious, and her voting box on Day 1 kind of clears him. That said, I don't think he's 100% clear, so if you do end up lynching him and he flips mafia, don’t assume I was trying to protect my teammate.
95 messages, and not a single one actually helps the town. Bystander seems like someone who wants to look active but isn’t interested in actually helping, just the kind of thing mafia would do. She’s not inactive, yet she’s contributed nothing. It feels like she’s just sending filler messages to seem engaged to avoid getting lynched. 
This type of inductive reasoning isn’t always reliable, as players can change their playstyle, but it's still worth considering. Yumi’s current approach is entirely different from when we played as mafia together. In this game, she comes across as more assertive yet less talkative. Previously, she had to engage with players and pretend to be clueless to avoid being lynched; however, this time, she seems indifferent to whether she gets lynched or not, which is typically a town behavior.
This might get me killed, but I believe he's TL. The number of people pushing him D1 without a reason should be enough to semi-clear him. The only suspicious thing about him is that he was inactive all day and suddenly came online to save himself. Considering that he was about to be voted out by Eaves, Parrot, Coal, and Chomps, it's clear that he was pushed for no reason. It doesn’t make sense to bus a teammate on Day 1, and I doubt anyone would be dumb enough to do that. I find Eaves suspicious, and her voting box on Day 1 kind of clears him. That said, I don't think he's 100% clear, so if you do end up lynching him and he flips mafia, don’t assume I was trying to protect my teammate. 
Saying this makes no sense because anyone could misplay or use different approach as tactic Saying this makes no sense because anyone could misplay or use different approach as tactic 
So I kind of gaslit myself into thinking they were towny because of it Me 
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The whole box / Toast thing should still be looked into as well. 
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The only thing worth mentioning is that he slipped up when he said "if I flip town," which should never happen if you're actually town. I don’t think a slip like that would come from brain fog, it should’ve been "once I flip town." https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1338584531996774541/1341190229444268115
Pairing
If he flips scum, I would feel ease with Zero and Parrot (maybe they wanted to force??? Not sure)
James protecting him makes sense "If a lot of people are pushing he is usually framed", but it's still sus
If James flips scum, Box is likely pocketed Townie
I doubt Box would be able to pocket James 
Wow okay, I never sus'd coal heavily. Did you read the game man
I stand by Parrot scum slipped
i still see mafia equity in sabrina so its not all doom
post iso: i liked day 1 - a lot of posts that i dont see being sent from a w!sabrina
i still am at a loss over the "clear 3 people and monty hall something something" i have no clue what this was trying to get at
https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1338584531996774541/1340763417916608554 d2 isnt bad. tonally good. content is decent too, analysis itself is meh but overall towny moreso than scummy
d3 is megamheh as the day progresses it gets worse
-# greenparrot wisdom says this is slightly townie i still see mafia equity in sabrina so its not all doom
post iso: i liked day 1 - a lot of posts that i dont see being sent from a w!sabrina
i still am at a loss over the "clear 3 people and monty hall something something" i have no clue what this was trying to get at
https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1338584531996774541/1340763417916608554 d2 isnt bad. tonally good. content is decent too, analysis itself is meh but overall towny moreso than scummy
d3 is megamheh as the day progresses it gets worse
-# greenparrot wisdom says this is slightly townie 
i still see mafia equity in sabrina so its not all doom
post iso: i liked day 1 - a lot of posts that i dont see being sent from a w!sabrina
i still am at a loss over the "clear 3 people and monty hall something something" i have no clue what this was trying to get at
https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1338584531996774541/1340763417916608554 d2 isnt bad. tonally good. content is decent too, analysis itself is meh but overall towny moreso than scummy
d3 is megamheh as the day progresses it gets worse
-# greenparrot wisdom says this is slightly townie i still see mafia equity in sabrina so its not all doom
post iso: i liked day 1 - a lot of posts that i dont see being sent from a w!sabrina
i still am at a loss over the "clear 3 people and monty hall something something" i have no clue what this was trying to get at
https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1338584531996774541/1340763417916608554 d2 isnt bad. tonally good. content is decent too, analysis itself is meh but overall towny moreso than scummy
d3 is megamheh as the day progresses it gets worse
-# greenparrot wisdom says this is slightly townie 
95 messages, and not a single one actually helps the town. Bystander seems like someone who wants to look active but isn’t interested in actually helping, just the kind of thing mafia would do. She’s not inactive, yet she’s contributed nothing. It feels like she’s just sending filler messages to seem engaged to avoid getting lynched.
This shows you don't even read my messages.
6. YOU were the one who said "Let's vote neeva and move on" not me https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1338584531996774541/1340389268379668571
7. This does not even make any sense. If I sus someone who was sussed by others first, I am mafia?
8. You use the same logic and say "James is usually more serious when he is mafia and is trolly when he is town so james is mafia in this game because he seems serious." Dont mind me but this reasoning is ass if you think I wouldn't notice if im trolling or not. Even I said people could change their playstyle so I could be wrong.
All of these point you have mentioned are forced and it appears you just need something to justify your vote. You act as if you sus sabrina and still voting me while giving dumb reasons makes me think You are 100% paired. 95 messages, and not a single one actually helps the town. Bystander seems like someone who wants to look active but isn’t interested in actually helping, just the kind of thing mafia would do. She’s not inactive, yet she’s contributed nothing. It feels like she’s just sending filler messages to seem engaged to avoid getting lynched.
This shows you don't even read my messages.
6. YOU were the one who said "Let's vote neeva and move on" not me https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1338584531996774541/1340389268379668571
7. This does not even make any sense. If I sus someone who was sussed by others first, I am mafia?
8. You use the same logic and say "James is usually more serious when he is mafia and is trolly when he is town so james is mafia in this game because he seems serious." Dont mind me but this reasoning is ass if you think I wouldn't notice if im trolling or not. Even I said people could change their playstyle so I could be wrong.
All of these point you have mentioned are forced and it appears you just need something to justify your vote. You act as if you sus sabrina and still voting me while giving dumb reasons makes me think You are 100% paired. 
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The only thing worth mentioning is that he slipped up when he said "if I flip town," which should never happen if you're actually town. I don’t think a slip like that would come from brain fog, it should’ve been "once I flip town." https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1338584531996774541/1341190229444268115
Pairing
If he flips scum, I would feel ease with Zero and Parrot (maybe they wanted to force??? Not sure)
James protecting him makes sense "If a lot of people are pushing he is usually framed", but it's still sus
If James flips scum, Box is likely pocketed Townie
I doubt Box would be able to pocket James ️
coal is just joking coal is just joking 
95 messages, and not a single one actually helps the town. Bystander seems like someone who wants to look active but isn’t interested in actually helping, just the kind of thing mafia would do. She’s not inactive, yet she’s contributed nothing. It feels like she’s just sending filler messages to seem engaged to avoid getting lynched.
This shows you don't even read my messages.
6. YOU were the one who said "Let's vote neeva and move on" not me https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1338584531996774541/1340389268379668571
7. This does not even make any sense. If I sus someone who was sussed by others first, I am mafia?
8. You use the same logic and say "James is usually more serious when he is mafia and is trolly when he is town so james is mafia in this game because he seems serious." Dont mind me but this reasoning is ass if you think I wouldn't notice if im trolling or not. Even I said people could change their playstyle so I could be wrong.
All of these point you have mentioned are forced and it appears you just need something to justify your vote. You act as if you sus sabrina and still voting me while giving dumb reasons makes me think You are 100% paired. ️
️ I agree, but that would of been James's pov
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Is Toast oblivious? This feels to easy to be mafia️ 
I'm naturally scummy I'm not going to lie. I'm just going to put this out there. If you or Sabrina aren't night killed tonight. There's something fishing going on I'm just going to put this out there. If you or Sabrina aren't night killed tonight. There's something fishing going on I'm just going to put this out there. If you or Sabrina aren't night killed tonight. There's something fishing going on of course I read them Oh right d1 kind of clears box you right. Wait who else voted Sabrina? I'm just going to put this out there. If you or Sabrina aren't night killed tonight. There's something fishing going on I absolutely suck at non-mech games I was thinking of another one Mia is going to absolutely put me on the grill, I can see it. That's okay, I'm a Houndoom heat is something I deal with all the time. 
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Can we all stop calling each other stupid, people get demotivated by that
I mean technically not a "read" it's implied that they think their sus just never really said "why" which I do think Sabrina should state the "why"
For the sake of stopping you now
Oh this was Toast, not James. I am blind
is it cause james read eaves as a pr so he wanted to vote me out and kill eaves instead so thats why he was more vocal about me I did, and honestly it was a horrible idea and I kind a honorary Mafia member that day for doing that 
The problem is ATM Box was super TWTBW, but then today they aren't being as Wolfy and everything? Box, wanna maybe explain what you actually want to try today? Oh my God it's Box and Yumi I am going to scream Oh my God it's Box and Yumi I am going to scream 
Oh this was Toast, not James. I am blind This type of inductive reasoning isn’t always reliable, as players can change their playstyle, but it's still worth considering. Yumi’s current approach is entirely different from when we played as mafia together. In this game, she comes across as more assertive yet less talkative. Previously, she had to engage with players and pretend to be clueless to avoid being lynched; however, this time, she seems indifferent to whether she gets lynched or not, which is typically a town behavior.
Aside from him pushing Box, I don’t have anything else on him for now. If we lynch Box and he turns out to be Mafia, I’ll clear Parrot since it wouldn’t make sense to bus a teammate on Day 1 without a reason. However, if Box flips Town, Parrot will be on my sus list because I can’t find a valid justification for his vote on Box, aside from voting for info.
This might get me killed, but I believe he's TL. The number of people pushing him D1 without a reason should be enough to semi-clear him. The only suspicious thing about him is that he was inactive all day and suddenly came online to save himself. Considering that he was about to be voted out by Eaves, Parrot, Coal, and Chomps, it's clear that he was pushed for no reason. It doesn’t make sense to bus a teammate on Day 1, and I doubt anyone would be dumb enough to do that. I find Eaves suspicious, and her voting box on Day 1 kind of clears him. That said, I don't think he's 100% clear, so if you do end up lynching him and he flips mafia, don’t assume I was trying to protect my teammate.
95 messages, and not a single one actually helps the town. Bystander seems like someone who wants to look active but isn’t interested in actually helping, just the kind of thing mafia would do. She’s not inactive, yet she’s contributed nothing. It feels like she’s just sending filler messages to seem engaged to avoid getting lynched. I want to focus on Box or Toast today. Especially after realizing that Box has basically had a whole 180 today. It doesn't make sense to me Hm, that's something to consider as well. I hate this slot lol So in your head: Coal / Sabrina / Parrot are almost always town right? Okay yeah I see why you think they are genuine
Why the fuck does it feel like a bystander situation again
My main question is now, if they did have James telling them what to do. Is that why we have everyone actually being active now?
I've been on Toast for this long ofc I sus the hell out of them. But you're right that we get no info if everyone gangs up on Toast I'm mainly voting you to get more info from Toast's flip I'm mainly voting you to get more info from Toast's flip i think the main argument was about valentines day lol i think the main argument was about valentines day lol 
i hate backreading
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99.999999% yumi is mafia I thought he claimed it just before and mia pinged for that
That and also Mafia tried to kill them the night before but was protected (which was why I town leaned them) You know, I brought this up multiple times and nobody fucking listened to me Anyone claiming Jailkeep is an idiot rn You know, I brought this up multiple times and nobody fucking listened to me That and I was town leaning Parrot at the time Because we're paranoid Didn't you want to hammer Toast yesterday good game if I'm wrong
Also who told me my town meta was just emote spam
I didn’t trust you at the start at all, but I’m not sure how would I figure coal is mafia
I didn’t trust you at the start at all, but I’m not sure how would I figure coal is mafia 
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